CHOW - 11 June 2014 with God's Dissenters

CHOW - Church House on a Wednesday - is  a regular forum for discussion on issues with a Christian basis.
This discussion is the latest part in a series considering the "future of the Church in Jersey" - assuming that it has a future. The four main speakers are non-Christians.

Last week the Dean of Jersey addressed the CHOW meeting and his talk is posted on Tom Gruchy YouTube in four parts on 4 June.

The dissenters this week were Deputy Sam Mezec, Ramsay Cudlipp (JEP), Juliet and Deputy Monty Tadier:

Part One above and most of  Parts two and three below feature mostly Deputy Mezec

Part two

Part three

Part four above is mostly Ramsay Cudlipp

Part five above features Juliet

Part six is Deputy Tadier.

Some questions from the audience have not been included due to poor sound quality and lack of space here. The meeting was chaired by Paul Millbank.

Daniel Wimberley at CHOW talk 3 March 2014 "Truth, honesty and trust in the Public Arena - with a Quaker twist."

The following videos were recorded at the CHOW /Business Connect Jersey meeting on 3 March 2014 and includes most of Daniel Wimberley's talk.
The Q and A sections were not recorded.

CHOW Xmas, politics, religion and drink - the essential mix for a reforming cocktail?

CHOW - Church House on a Wednesday - the spin-off discussion group from "Business Connect" hosted its final gathering of 2013 in a pub. It was very humorous and entertaining. Jokes were told, Food eaten and beer drunk. Hymns were sung.

What a pity that overtly political meetings cannot be similarly organised in Jersey - politics is fun.......

On the other hand the Xmas message so far as the Christian Church is concerned seems to this observer to become ever more confusing.
The antics of the Church Establishment and the raising of the independence flag over the Dean's activities become ever more bizarre by the day....

So here are a few words from Simon - a prominent supporter and organiser within the CHOW group - expressing his interpretation of the events of 2013.

He embraces the "political" side of the Church but whether this includes the intervention by the likes of  Senator Bailhache in the current "scandal" is not clear here. Perhaps a more sustained and targetted interview should be offered? Any volunteers from the Jersey Church to explain more fully what has been going on and what is proposed for the future?

And do any Jersey politicians have a word to express here on the role of the Church in Jersey and whether the Established C of E brand uniquely deserves funding from public revenues?

Volunteers should just make contact via the comment box....

Whatever happened to Dixon of Dock Green or Sherlock Holmes?

This is a copy of a recent JEP billboard but why were the Jersey Police relying so much on CCTV to catch the supposed offender?

Is this just a symptom of the electronic approach to keeping the peace?

Is there any evidence that such methods are effective? Has anybody done the research in Jersey or anywhere else?

On Wednesday 18 September Charles Farrier of the UK action group NO-CCTV will be in Jersey and speaking at 3 public meetings on the basis of his extensive knowledge. He does not support the use of CCTV and modern surveillance processes or purposes.

The meetings are

1) 1pm to 2pm CHOW discussion with invited panel at Church House, St Helier and refreshments are available

2) Is an official Scrutiny Panel hearing to consider CCTV use in Jersey and starts at 4pm in Le Capelain Room of the States Building and 3) is at Church House again from 6pm when Charles Farriet will meet with members of the Jersey Human Rights Group for a discussion followed by a presentation at about 7pm with Q and A session to follow. All the meetings are FREE and open to the public but the Scrutiny Panel does not permit public participation except listening. However, Scrutiny has issued a Questionnaire which can be accessed on the Scrutiny gov.je website and will be pleased to receive written observations...

NO-CCTV website is www.no-cctv.org.uk

CCTV and Surveillance in Jersey - what do we really know about it?

Did you realise that there are 5 CCTV cameras on a Jersey "Liberty Bus" plus an audio recording facility? What sort of "liberty" is that?

My suggestion that "surveillance" should be subject to a Scrutiny review has been accepted and the Panel is now undertaking its research. There is an on line questionnaire to complete (have a look at the Scrutiny gov.je site or call at the Greffe information bookshop in Morier House for a copy or ask at your Parish Hall about it).

Scrutiny hearings will be taking place soon - these are usually open to the public - some have already been held and you are invited to send in submissions.
What do you really think about CCTV and the trend towards more and more information about YOU being held on  computers by public and private bodies? Who regulates the control and distribution of so much DATA etc....

CHARLES FARRIER of UK group NO-CCTV will be in Jersey soon to speak about his concerns with regard to CCTV and the expanding SURVEILLANCE industry which affects us ALL.

He does not accept that CCTV is inevitable or that it is justified.
The apparent acceptance of CCTV in Jersey has never been properly challenged. The case in favour has never really been expressed although many claims have been made. The facts remain minimal. The regulations are vague and indadequately resourced.

You can hear Charles Farrier in Jersey on Wednesday 18 September;
1) at the "CHOW" lunchtime discussion 1pm to 2pm at Church House, St Helier where he will discuss the issues with several others (to be invited). Soup and/or sandwiches are available but the meeting is free and all are welcome
2) From 4pm (until about 5.30pm) he will appear before the Scrutiny Panel in Le Capelain Room of the States Building (enter through main lobby entrance off Royal Square). This is a public hearing where the general public can listen but not speak.
3) From about 6pm Charles will meet with members and supporters of the Jersey Human Rights Group in the Church House. Members of the public are welcome to attend but he will speak at about 7pm and there will be a general discussion to follow. Admission is free. For more information contact this blog or Mike Dun on 01534 862929 ;                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

"Does God LOL?" Tony Vino with CHOW in Jersey

Tony Vino appeared for CHOW in Jersey on Thursday 15 August and we interviewed him afterwards.
Its not often that a Human Rights lawyer/law lecturer and acedemic appears in Jersey at all but when he comes here as a comedian speaking for the local Christian missionary group "Business Connect" we felt duty bound to take notice.

Of course, he has given up on the law career and has joined the 600 or so other hopefuls that he reckons make a full-time living as comedians in the UK.

More details about Tony can be found on his own internet site;
www.tonyvino.co.uk

The other interviews referred to here can be found on this tom gruchy blog - David Dale and the Cosmo Show at 28 July 2013 and Chris Larner with regard to his play "An Instinct for Kindness" on 26 May 2012.

Tony Vino's book "Does God LOL?" is in the bookshops now or you can contact him direct for details.

The Dean did not attend the CHOW show.